Incremental Change/Feedback LO12455

Ian Saunders (tpians@cix.compulink.co.uk)
Mon, 10 Feb 97 10:25 GMT0

Replying to LO12411 --

In-Reply-To: <32FB97A5.1132@geocities.com>

Ben,

I would like to add a few comments to this thread.

Before I do can I check that they two Ben Compton's I read messages from
are one and the same person. (I guess some messages sent from home others
fromwork). If this is not the case then I am more confused than before!!

[Host's Note: Yes, I believe there is only one Ben Compton, using two
different addresses. ...Rick]

I also like Tom Peters. I like him because he makes sense to me. Says
things in simple language, says things that relate to the business world
that I encounter. AND when I see some of his video's I dislike the way
that he treats some of his audience.

A number of messages in this thread have noted the significance of emotion
and stress to understanding.

The email media is a difficult one on which to transmit emotion and stress
with any likelihood of common understanding or appreciation. Picking up
emotion when face to face is difficult enough, when only getting words,
often hours or even days later makes a common understanding of our
messages very difficult. Added to this is the differences that we all have
in how we respond to the way things are stated, questioned etc.

I have observed from this list all manner of everyday problems. Lack of
tolerance, difficulties in understanding, differing views, different
interpretation of the same things. Pretty usual situation and generally
this list does much better with these issues than the world at large. It
does this becasue it tries to do something with them. We will never remove
these difficulties, only get better at dealing with them. This point is
highlighted by refering to the postings of three people. They show
differences in the language of their messages which makes it easier or
harder for me to understand. Scott Simmerman generally posts short and
often slightly humourous messages. I take ideas from them. At de Lange
writes generally long posts which I find complicated and struggle to
finish, although I sense great power in them. For me they are difficult
whilst a friend finds them wonderful. Your own postings I find interesting
because they prompt questions and therefore dialogue.

All different, all valuable. Others will have a different view of the same
messages.

I have gained an insight from this list which is - Sometimes in our
attempt ot help others with answers we make things too clear, too black
and white, that actually hinders greater understanding. I think that this
relates to a point raised in an earlier thread that many messages seem
Teacher to pupil oriented. Another insight is that someitimes I don't need
to answer a message. My learning comes from noticing connections within
the dialogue of others.

This has become a ramble. I'm sorry. I find this list so facinating and
useful. I like your postings to the extent that I look for them first or
ealy on in my reading.

I hope that you find this list helpful in all ways.

Ian
Ian Saunders
Transition Partnerships - Harnessing change for business advantage
tpians@cix.compulink.co.uk

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