Symbiosis in LOs LO11140

Julie Beedon (julie@vistabee.win-uk.net)
Tue, 26 Nov 1996 08:50:58

Replying to LO11124 --

> There are three main types of symbiosis:
>
>mutual: A produces something which is food to B and
> B produces something else which is food to A
>
>comensal: A produces something which is food to B and
> which B may utilise without harming A
>
>parasital: A produces something which is food to B and
> which B utilise to the detriment of A

Is symbiosis always a two party transaction??

Is there a chance we could have

A produces something which is food for B
B produces something which is food for C
C produces something which is food for D
.....produces something which is food for A

and what would we call it....

My take on this who issue of freely giving in the learning is that it
might not come back to us from those who we give it to but that in a
generous environment it will surely come to us from somewhere. I would
like to be part of the creation of the generous environment if I can
..........

My take on being on the recieving end of this symbiosis is that it can be
an uncomfortable as the giving because we feel in some from of
indebtedness - why is that uncomfortable. I would like to try out the
notion that our debt is not necessarily directly back to the person who
gave to us but to the whole community??

I know the Meta Network (tmn.com) are providing the sort of conference
space where the sort of in depth transactions you are describing can be
carried out. Robert Jacobs and Frank McKeown are currently setting up a
real time strategic change conferencing facility their to support the
global learning community around principle based whole system change and I
am looking forward to the in-depth conversations we will be able to have
there.

When At said:
>However, I fear that there is too much comensal and too little mutual
>symbiosis in this forum.

I was not sure what this meant. I am drawign all sorts of conclusions
which I suspect may be right out of line so I would be grateful if you
could say more about what it is about the forum which makes you think
there is too much comensal symbiosis?

>It is very difficult
>for very creative people to enjoy mutual symbiosis.

I am not sure I understand this either - my take on earlier postings about
creativity and creation was that we are all creative people this seems to
imply that some are more creative than others. I am struggling with this
model - my sense is that everyone has something to offer someone else. I
am uncomfortable with the picture of people at the front's edge - my sense
is that there are many fronts and I do not want to stand at all of them
although I am glad that someone is... I am nervous about the notion of a
back-pack and the implication that it is parasitical.

Julie Beedon
VISTA Consulting - for a better future
julie@vistabee.win-uk.net

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