I'd like to piggy back on Keith's comments to Joan:
> Replying to LO9510 --
>
> Joan Pomo <jpomo@gate.net> makes the assertion that consistent outcomes
> to managemnt styles are possible:
> >..Our experience with a specific tool set (which achieve what Rol does)
> >indicates that the matter of different outcomes can be averted. In
> >other words, significant variations will not occur...
>
> I would like to see the "proof" of this.
Elsewhere on this list, and others, Joan has made these comments, and has
quoted quantified results. Could we have an overview of the toolset, Joan?
Keith goes on to talk about Joan's notion of "enforcement" as being
antithetical to empowerment and learning. I don't fully agree there. If
we look at enforcement as a "boss's coaching of his students to continually
practice, we are, indeed using the disciplines of personal mastery at the
individual level, group learning, and the gift of these tools and the
assistance of the mentor in mastering their use is a good form of
empowerment.
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