On 1 Jul 96 at 11:32, jpomo@gate.net wrote:
>
> > On 27 Jun 96 at 18:16, Rol Fessenden wrote:
> >
> > > Getting back to Joan's question, for me as an individual, the
> > > conflict gets resolved, but only through a long difficult
> > > process. For others who arrive at the opposite action, the
> > > conflict also gets resolved, but only through a long, difficult
> > > process.
>
> Robert commented on 29 June -
>
> > The conflict of the values may not be resolved...even though you
> > come to a "decision" about what your behaviour will be. Our
> > society, for example, values both individual rights, and group
> > rights. These often come into conflict. Each decision point may
> > eventually be resolved in terms of a decision being made, but that
> > does NOT mean that the conflict between the two values is
> > resolved.
>
> Something which has helped me to understand how people use values
> and to understand conflicts is to separate "how to" values from
> things we value. By "how to " values I mean how to act in accordance
> with values such as fairness, love, charity, humility, knowledge,
> respect, enthusiasm, forgiveness, forthrightness, honesty, loyalty,
> integrity, selflessness, confidence, quality, neatness, cleanliness
> and the like. By things we value, I mean individual rights, monetary
> wealth, air/water quality, animal rights, group rights and the like.
I'm sorry, but it seems to me a false dichotomy. Values (one's truly
held, not just espoused), are all how to values, are they not? Look
at the two sentences:
...how to act in accordance with values such as respect, enthusiasm...
...how to act in accordancewith values such as individual rights.//
Care to provide two formal definitions of what you are trying to get
across?
> But conflicts between the "how
> to" values IMHO arise from not being aware of a solution which will
> satisfies all or not being able to bring ourselves to accept the one
> solution which satisfies all.
So, is your contention that there is ALWAYS a solution that in real
life results in acting in accordance with one's values?
How does your promotional activities in the past fit in? How do you
see violating internet norms conforming to the value of respect for
others? Joan, I just don't think it is so simple, as you, yourself
have experienced. I would really like to know how you have found the
one solution that satisfies all in this respect, when clearly a good
part of the rest of the world disagrees with your "disrespectful"
promotional behaviour?
Robert Bacal, CEO, Institute For Cooperative Communication
dbt359@freenet.mb.ca, Located in Winnipeg, Manitoba.
(204 888-9290.
--"Robert Bacal" <dbt359@freenet.mb.ca>
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