Andrew Moreno wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, GSCHERL wrote:
> > John, You wrote:
> > > shareware. When I can get them interested in taking a look at listservs
> > >or newsgroups, it's hard for them to understand the discipline of reading
> > > thirty messages about learning every morning, just to learn about
> > > learning.
>
> Well, if double loop learning is similar or equivalent to double loop
> learning, then I think I know why very few people are interested in
> listservs like this.
>
> I've learned most people fight and scratch to avoid jumping to learning
> level II - double loop learning. I just don't bother _trying_ to talk
> about this stuff to most people - even people who know about toolsets used
> to generate learning on levels 1-4.
>
> It presents problems - to sell stuff learning-org facilitators have to
> water down what they teach. I'm not sure if people of high caliber and
> integrity such as John Warfield and others are willing to do that.
>
> Andrew Moreno
This could be an interesting thread. When I am teaching, or training, my
style depends very much on the group's perceptions. There's a lot of
literature out their, I think, that deals with this, but the question of
"watering down" interests me. I once read Bertrand Russell's "The ABC's
of Relativity". You could call it watered down Einstein, but it helped me
understand relativity much more richly than any physics text. To get into
the mathematical relationships involved was not possible for me at that
time, but without them, I couldn't understand the reasoning. Russell's
understanding of the math allowed him to speak sotto voce about an
extremely complex theory and make it available to the non-physicist.
In the same way, I teach statistics to people with no college and very
little formal training in math. They need to understand the concepts, not
the derivations of the formulae or their relationships to insolubilia. Is
this watered down?
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