Re: Ishmael & Narratives LO3509

Willard Jule (75272.3452@compuserve.com)
30 Oct 95 08:43:58 EST

Replying to LO3490 --

Dr. Ivan Blanco wrote

"We have to learn to live with less, rather than more."

He was describing some of the harvest we are reaping from the two pay
check family such as kids without family values.

I would like to offer a different view. I see the major reason that we
are in our current state is that people still function mostly in a
dependent of independent mode. Most of our institutions still foster
competition vs. coopetition. It's not like we don't have enough material
wealth to share so that all people could have a very high standard of
living. It seems more that many people still don't see the systemic
connection of our actions.

For those who attended STIA and listened to Karl-Henrik talk about the
agglomeration of materials and the negative impact of this phenomenon, you
all have a frame of reference to see that ziploc bags are contributing to
violence in the schools and elsewhere. (You're going to have to construct
a few connected systems diagrams to get to his conclusion, but it won't be
difficult for the group in this forum.)

We've been talking about moral language and dialogue in this forum. It
seems to me that moral dialogue isn't going to do anything to help people
have a more meaningful quality of life. However, the simple recognition
that we live in an interdependent system would provide a foundation for
everyone to live a meaningful life.

We have so many systems that continue to foster people living in a
dependent psychology and we have so many people who apparently benefit
from this situation that it is going to be difficult to get people in
power positions to have any meaningful awareness of interdependence.
(People in power positions are those that control the creation and molding
of institutions such as Federal law makers and corporate executives.)

Every time I am in a situation in which people have a deep sense of
community, I experience what can be created by all members of the
community for all members of the community. It's so easy and yet it may
never happen. All we have to do is create conditions for ourselves and
those affected by us that foster the development of their psychology of
independent capability and awareness of everyone's connectivity. Then
they can come together with others who have the same mind set and
actualize synergy.

My guess is that those people who use moral concepts would find this to be
a moral community.

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Willard Jule <75272.3452@compuserve.com>