>Jack, if I didn't make it clear when I spoke *for* those tough and
>paternalistic old guard let me do it now. Sometimes you have to fire
My experience has been that they sometimes 'fire themselves' .... ie
recognise that they do not want to transform and that some form of
trnasformation is inevitable and so they find voluntary avenues of
leaving which are good for them and the organisation...
-- Julie Beedon VISTA Associates - consulting for a better future email@example.com