RE: Questions LO178

msa@panix.com
Mon, 20 Feb 95 22:30:32 PST

>From [Marc S Abrams (950221.2223)

Replying to LO171

Hi George,

Before getting to the nitty gritty of your post. May I suggest that you
use a hard return after each line. I believe you are using a DOS machine
and the UNIX list servers have a bad time with word wrapping.

> My name is George Takacs and I am an independent consultant
>in Maryland.
> I use Senge's Book in my Organization Development class at
>the University of Maryland.
> I also do a lot of team building and facilitating. I have a
>couple of questions which I would like to post to see what answers I may
>get.
>
George:
>1. It seems to me that the learning organization concept is very
>similar to Argyris' Double-loop learning, Lewin's Action Research and
>Dewey's forward-backward learning. If that is not the case in your
>opinion, how does he differ?

Marc:
Argyris' work was built upon the work of Lewin and Dewey. The "Learning
Organization" consists of 5 disiciplines. One of which is based on
Argyris' work. (Mental models). The "Learning Organization" has a much
broader net.

George:
>2. In conducting team building sessions it is easy to see how team
>learning works. The team has various ways to make what they learn
>operational, none of which makes the learning set in concrete and
>applicable forever.
>
>A problem I have is how does an organization do that? It seems to
>me that if an organization tries to implement what it learns the danger
>is to turn it into another rule or regulation which becomes inflexible.
>And does the whole organization really learn, or do various parts learn
>and share what they learn with each other?

Marc:
I might get an argument here :-), but people learn, not "organizations" I
think the work of Argyris, Schon, Putnam, et al. Show how people do and
don't provide the *opportunity* for others in the organizations to benefit
from the learning that takes place within individuals and ultimately
shared. That *IS* a problem.

George:
>Well that is enough for tonight. It is nice so far being on this list.
>I look forward to sharing more questions and insights.

Marc:
Hope I've been of some help. Good luck with your efforts.
>George Takacs
>Takacs Techniques
>Largo, MD
>Takacs@europa.umuc.edu
>
>

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